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ceiling issue. i know you have said you're not negotiating that. your administration has ruled out the various ideas that have been out there, the 14th amendment that just this morning house -- one of the house democratic leaders asked you to use the 14th amendment, and even said sometimes that's what it takes. he brought up the emancipation probleming clamation. he compared the debt ceiling to that. are you considering a plan b? if not, why not? >> well, chuck, the issue here is whether or not america pays its bills. we are not a deadbeat nation. so there's a very simple solution to this. congress authorizes us to pay our bills. if the house and the senate want to give me the authority so that they don't have to take these tough votes, if they want to put the responsibility on me to raise the debt ceiling, i'm happy to take it. mitch mcconnell had a proposal like that last year, and i'm happy to accept it, but if they want to keep this responsibility, then they need to go ahead and get it done. the
ceiling issue. i know you have said you're not negotiating that. your administration has ruled out the various ideas that have been out there, the 14th amendment that just this morning house -- one of the house democratic leaders asked you to use the 14th amendment, and even said sometimes that's what it takes. he brought up the emancipation probleming clamation. he compared the debt ceiling to that. are you considering a plan b? if not, why not? >> well, chuck, the issue here is whether...
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ceiling. >> the issue here is whether or not america pays its bills. we are not a deadbeat nation. >> taking a stand on the one-month anniversary of the newtown massacre. the families speak out. >> this is a promise to turn the conversation into actions. things must change. this is the time. this is a promise we make to our precious children because each child, every human life, is filled with promise, and though we continue to be filled with unbearable pain, we choose love, belief, and hope instead of anger. >> calling them out. tough words from former secretary of state general colin powell for his fellow republicans on race. >> there's also a dark vein of intolerance many some parts of the party. >> the end of the longest war and the man president obama has nominated to wind it down coming up. retired general stanley mcchrystal on chuck hagel. the exit strategy from afghanistan and his own career. >>> plus, show stopper. president clinton he should the standing ovation with his surprise appearance on "lincoln" at the golden globes. >> in "lincoln" w
ceiling. >> the issue here is whether or not america pays its bills. we are not a deadbeat nation. >> taking a stand on the one-month anniversary of the newtown massacre. the families speak out. >> this is a promise to turn the conversation into actions. things must change. this is the time. this is a promise we make to our precious children because each child, every human life, is filled with promise, and though we continue to be filled with unbearable pain, we choose love,...
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but we can't move beyond the debt ceiling issue. i knew that would be a stopper, a game stopper. so we have to address that. now, the conditions exist that there can be a grand compromise that will move the economy forward or we can just go into free fall. for example, the last negotiation on the debt ceiling, well, the president, i thought, gave more than he should have given, but nonetheless, he did that. now the onus is on the rps to come to the table. because, see, what has happened is, tax cuts are essentially -- tax increases are off the table. and we got revenue from that. not enough that we needed, but that's off the table. and that was a big issue for the republicans. >> danny, let's move on. let's talk about the possibility of a government shutdown. the president seemed to indicate that it was, first of all, the republicans' responsibility. that they were going to take the onus, the responsibility for this, and that it was potentially something that he was willing to allow happen, because he felt that most people will blame the republicans. if the government shuts down,
but we can't move beyond the debt ceiling issue. i knew that would be a stopper, a game stopper. so we have to address that. now, the conditions exist that there can be a grand compromise that will move the economy forward or we can just go into free fall. for example, the last negotiation on the debt ceiling, well, the president, i thought, gave more than he should have given, but nonetheless, he did that. now the onus is on the rps to come to the table. because, see, what has happened is, tax...
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on the debt ceiling issue it is dramatically different. and on top of that you also have two other issues where these two sides will be going head to head. again, the issue of sequester. and obviously, the continuing resolution, basically the way the government is paid for going forward. so we've got a busy couple months ahead of us. >> we do. hey, peter, we have to take note that we're going to see you in a little more dressed down, little more casual sigde of you at the bottom of the hour for office politics. for anyone who wants to see what goes on behind the scenes with you, tune in. are you nervous? >> i think i have a pretty good sense how this is going to go. i was more nervous when you came here-p but i know you took good care of me. it will be all right. >> it will. it will be interesting for folks who stick around. thanks, peter. >> thanks, alex. >> carol lee and associate politics editor for roll call david drucker. welcome to both of you. >> good morning. >> carol, i'll speak with you first. as the president says, he's not goin
on the debt ceiling issue it is dramatically different. and on top of that you also have two other issues where these two sides will be going head to head. again, the issue of sequester. and obviously, the continuing resolution, basically the way the government is paid for going forward. so we've got a busy couple months ahead of us. >> we do. hey, peter, we have to take note that we're going to see you in a little more dressed down, little more casual sigde of you at the bottom of the...
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, the debt ceiling, maybe the war in afghanistan could have gotten a word today, or a question are we really getting out. in the d.c. media they're concerned about who is at what cocktail party and what everybody is wearing and how come you're not talking to more people. meanwhile, the president said he puts out invitations to the white house all the time. >> we invite folks from congress over here all the time. sometimes they don't choose to come, and that has to do with the fact that i think they don't consider the optics useful for them politically. >> ah-ha. you can't get your picture taken with the president. that's not good. boehner has turned down invitations to five state dinners in a row. mitch mcconnell and three other republican senators turned down an invitation just to watch the movie "lincoln" over at the white house. it might have embarrassed them a little bit. these snubs are nothing new from republicans. it's dangerous politically for republicans to be seen at the white house. and there is always a tea party candidate close by, waiting to primary anybody who works wit
, the debt ceiling, maybe the war in afghanistan could have gotten a word today, or a question are we really getting out. in the d.c. media they're concerned about who is at what cocktail party and what everybody is wearing and how come you're not talking to more people. meanwhile, the president said he puts out invitations to the white house all the time. >> we invite folks from congress over here all the time. sometimes they don't choose to come, and that has to do with the fact that i...
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debt ceiling is not a question of authorizing more spending. the issue here is whether or not america pays its bills. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize us to spend more. because this is about paying your bills. >> i do hope speaker boehner was listening. joining us in the studio is jonathan capehart from "the washington post" and in los angeles democratic strategist and nyu professor bob shrum. welcome to you both. professor shrum, we reached the debt ceiling two weeks ago today. the treasury department is giving us a few weeks of maneuvering room before we begin to default. and yet you have people like the heritage foundation saying today, default is not at issue. how many conservatives truly believe their tactics pose no risk whatsoever to the economy, particularly given what happened the last time they took the debt ceiling hostage? >> look, what heritage put out today is drivel. a transparent attempt -- >> drivel, this is the considered view of an important organization. >> yeah, whose president is jim demint. i don't take it all
debt ceiling is not a question of authorizing more spending. the issue here is whether or not america pays its bills. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize us to spend more. because this is about paying your bills. >> i do hope speaker boehner was listening. joining us in the studio is jonathan capehart from "the washington post" and in los angeles democratic strategist and nyu professor bob shrum. welcome to you both. professor shrum, we reached the debt ceiling two weeks...
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we know about the confirmation hearing issues and then the fiscal, the debt ceiling which is fast approaching as well. >> definitely that dance card is getting filled up pretty quickly so early in the year and he hasn't even been inaugurated. also in that article, senator marco rubio preparing his own version of the d.r.e.a.m. act. he discussed how republicans could face some pushback from latinos because of their stance on immigration reform. he said this, quote. we are going to have a struggle speaking to a whole segment of the population about our principles of limited government and free enterprise if they think we don't want them here, alluding to those who might benefit from the d.r.e.a.m. act. so republicans have their own pr campaign to conduct with latinos on immigration reform, but how is the president going to combat republicans who want to see a more piece meal approach as we move forward here? >> reporter: i think we've seen the way the president has handled other recent challenges from his republican opposition when you consider just the fiscal cliff hanger as it were with campa
we know about the confirmation hearing issues and then the fiscal, the debt ceiling which is fast approaching as well. >> definitely that dance card is getting filled up pretty quickly so early in the year and he hasn't even been inaugurated. also in that article, senator marco rubio preparing his own version of the d.r.e.a.m. act. he discussed how republicans could face some pushback from latinos because of their stance on immigration reform. he said this, quote. we are going to have a...
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ceiling issue. i know you've said you're not negotiating on it. your administration has ruled out the various ideas that have been out there, the 14th amendment, but just this morning, one of the house democratic leaders, jim clyburn asked you to use the 14th amendment, and even said sometimes that's what it takes. he brought up the emancipation proclamation saying it took executive action when congress wouldn't act and he compared the debt ceiling to that. so are you considering a plan "b"? and if not, why not? >> well, chuck, the issue here is whether or not america pays its bills. we are not a deadbeat nation. and so, there's a very simple solution to this -- congress authorizes us to pay our bills. now, if the house and the senate want to give me the authority so that they don't have to take these tough votes, if they want to put the responsibility on me to raise the debt ceiling, i'll happily take it. mitch mcconnell, the republican leader in the senate, had a proposal like that last year, and
ceiling issue. i know you've said you're not negotiating on it. your administration has ruled out the various ideas that have been out there, the 14th amendment, but just this morning, one of the house democratic leaders, jim clyburn asked you to use the 14th amendment, and even said sometimes that's what it takes. he brought up the emancipation proclamation saying it took executive action when congress wouldn't act and he compared the debt ceiling to that. so are you considering a plan...
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how do you think lincoln would handle gun control or the debt ceiling or a whole range of other issues that the current president -- >> look, martin, du h, lincoln would agree with me on everything. this is the unmistakable mandate of history. we all know this. >> right. thank you very much. thomas frank, thank you. >>> next, the president may be one step closer to getting his man. but first, sue herera has the cnbc market wrap. good afternoon. >> good to see you, martin. let's check in on how wall street finished today's trading session. it was a volatile trading day and the dow jones managed to gain 27 points. the s&p gained just under 2 points on the trading session. and the nasdaq with a drag from face boonk to the downside finished down 6.75 points. that's it from cnbc. we are first in business worldwide. martin is back after a quick break. [ male announcer ] this is joe woods' first day of work. and his new boss told him two things -- cook what you love, and save your money. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaura
how do you think lincoln would handle gun control or the debt ceiling or a whole range of other issues that the current president -- >> look, martin, du h, lincoln would agree with me on everything. this is the unmistakable mandate of history. we all know this. >> right. thank you very much. thomas frank, thank you. >>> next, the president may be one step closer to getting his man. but first, sue herera has the cnbc market wrap. good afternoon. >> good to see you,...
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bolster the republicans hand when it comes to dealing with the democrats on the issue of debt and much more. ohio senator rob portman is here. and what do you make of obama, only 2006 a vote against the debt ceiling. >> it went further than that. he said it would be unpatriotic. >> sean: that's another, i actually have that clip. you want to see it. >> sure. >> sean: let's show the videotape. >> the problem is, is that the way bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the bank of china in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from 5 trillion dollars for the first 42 presidents, number 43 added 4 trillion dollars by his lonesome, so we now have over 9 trillion dollars of debt that we are going to have to pay back. $30,000 for every man, woman and child. that's irresponsible. it's unpatriotic. >> sean: now at 16 trillion and $52,000 for every man, woman and child without unfunded liability. >> i posted 6 trillion dollars ago actually. another thing that he said, sean, i think is equally important, this means republicans don't want to pa
bolster the republicans hand when it comes to dealing with the democrats on the issue of debt and much more. ohio senator rob portman is here. and what do you make of obama, only 2006 a vote against the debt ceiling. >> it went further than that. he said it would be unpatriotic. >> sean: that's another, i actually have that clip. you want to see it. >> sure. >> sean: let's show the videotape. >> the problem is, is that the way bush has done it over the last eight...
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and willing to increase the debt ceiling. however, i think what is going to be a problem from the white house's perspective is that three months. i was speaking with a senior administration official a little earlier today and he sort of reiterated the fact that the president is opposed to this idea of increasing the debt ceiling in these small increments because it creates crises every couple of months. so that could be a potential problem moving forward, but what is significant i think in the eyes of the white house is house speaker john boehner has sort of abandoned this idea to increase the debt ceiling and tie it to dollar to dollar spending cuts. so from their perspective that represents some movement. i have been talking to my republican sources who say they feel confident that this plan to increase the debt ceiling and then to also sort of force congress' hand on the budget in three months is something that could get through both houses. we'll have to see. i expect that all of this debating will sort of be on pause on
and willing to increase the debt ceiling. however, i think what is going to be a problem from the white house's perspective is that three months. i was speaking with a senior administration official a little earlier today and he sort of reiterated the fact that the president is opposed to this idea of increasing the debt ceiling in these small increments because it creates crises every couple of months. so that could be a potential problem moving forward, but what is significant i think in the...
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of the debt ceiling. lou, an interesting couple of months. looking forward to it. >> megyn: all right. thank you, sir. >> thanks, megyn. >> megyn: with the president refuse to go negotiate on that debt ceiling, it's coming and we're going to hit it and there's going to be a real question what we will do. he negotiated the last time and suddenly says he doesn't want to negotiate anymore and the republicans have drawn a line in the sand when it comes to these spending cuts, saying, if we don't see a dollar for dollar spending cut in the amount you want to raise the debt ceiling, there's no deal. what kind of progress can we hope for here? our political panel debates that coming up in our next hour. now to another big debate playing out in washington over the obama administration's efforts to overhaul the nation's gun laws. we heard some of that this morning. here is the president addressing this issue during a white house news conference, we mentioned, moments ago. >> what you can count on is that the thing
of the debt ceiling. lou, an interesting couple of months. looking forward to it. >> megyn: all right. thank you, sir. >> thanks, megyn. >> megyn: with the president refuse to go negotiate on that debt ceiling, it's coming and we're going to hit it and there's going to be a real question what we will do. he negotiated the last time and suddenly says he doesn't want to negotiate anymore and the republicans have drawn a line in the sand when it comes to these spending cuts,...
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so we have two issues here. one is a government shutdown. other is the debt ceiling. let me ask you again, would you be willing to shut the government down? >> we are going to look at all of these options. you know, there is the option of government shutdown. there is an option of raising the debt ceiling in short-term increments. >> would you be wailing to do that? >> i don't know. i just know that that's one of the things that is being floated, as you've seen in some of the articles. is raising it in short-term inyes increments. there's also the olympiplan of cuts of every $1 of debt limit increase. there are a lot of plans out there. the healthy thing is this. we are having a good discussion on it and the american people are very engaged in it. when i'm out in my district like i was last week and talking to my constituents, they will tell you, they are just -- they're over pay for programs they don't want, programs that have outlived their usefulness with money that we do not have. >> but with are they willing to see the government shut down? are you hearing that,
so we have two issues here. one is a government shutdown. other is the debt ceiling. let me ask you again, would you be willing to shut the government down? >> we are going to look at all of these options. you know, there is the option of government shutdown. there is an option of raising the debt ceiling in short-term increments. >> would you be wailing to do that? >> i don't know. i just know that that's one of the things that is being floated, as you've seen in some of the...
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ceiling and and after the treasury department issued a statement saying that quote, neither the treasury department nor the federal reserve believes the law can or should be used to facilitate the production of platinum coins to avoid the increase in the debt limit. and finally a quick personal update, i'll be in baltimore on wednesday to talk about my book "twilight of the elites." a chapter about the steroids era in baseball and i'll be at pratt library. >>> and you should know aaron schwartz has died of suicide at age 26. his body was found in his apartment on friday. aaron was one of those naturally brilliant precocious hackers who at the age of 14 codeveloped the syndication of rss web protocol and is a key component of the we be's infrastructure. he founded a company to merge with a user generated social site which is one of the most highly trafficked. reviewed doz. he wrote beautifully and prolifically. he worked with progressive change committee and founded demand progress to keep the internet open and free and the battle to stop and defeat online pirate si act. he created the ic
ceiling and and after the treasury department issued a statement saying that quote, neither the treasury department nor the federal reserve believes the law can or should be used to facilitate the production of platinum coins to avoid the increase in the debt limit. and finally a quick personal update, i'll be in baltimore on wednesday to talk about my book "twilight of the elites." a chapter about the steroids era in baseball and i'll be at pratt library. >>> and you should...
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another big issue facing congress is the debt ceiling. treasury secretary timothy geithner released a letter this week saying the government could run out its borrowing authority in as little as four weeks. now, republicans are trying to use this chance to force the democrats into serious long-term spending cuts but obama insists this is about paying the bills congress has already racked up. more bill up next. just be grateful current tv does not come in smellivision. the sweatshirt is nice and all but i could use a golden lasso. (vo) only on current tv. >> announcer: broad broadcasting across the nation and on tv on current tv. >> bill: breaking news, clarence thomas has spoken. for the first time in seven years. at the supreme court. clarence thomas uttered maybe three words. maybe four. nobody is sure what he said. but he did show signs of life. oh, my god. what do you say? good morning everybody. with that bit of astounding news, we start off the "full court press" this tuesday morning, january 15. great to see you today. welcome, wel
another big issue facing congress is the debt ceiling. treasury secretary timothy geithner released a letter this week saying the government could run out its borrowing authority in as little as four weeks. now, republicans are trying to use this chance to force the democrats into serious long-term spending cuts but obama insists this is about paying the bills congress has already racked up. more bill up next. just be grateful current tv does not come in smellivision. the sweatshirt is nice and...
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there are other issues that can be negotiated for spending and raising revenues and the debt ceiling should not be a part of it. host: ok, thank you for calling. here is the editorial cartoonist of the post. the idea of minting a single coin valued at $1 trillion. using that to increase the debt limit. a number of stories saying that basically, this is not going to happen. his is what is reclined -- this -- what ezra kline writes he points out that they will not mince a trillion dollar coin. if it did, the federal reserve would not accept it. at is in important point. the inclusion of the federal reserve is significant. the platinum coin idea to work, the fed would have to retreat it as a way to create currency. next call is bob from idaho, independent line. caller: good morning. as i was waking up, i turn on c- span. i heard the representative from nebraska making remarks. i would like to point out to her that ronald reagan thought the social security has nothing at all to do with the national debt. it is fine. it has nothing to do with the budget at all. ronald reagan was adamant a
there are other issues that can be negotiated for spending and raising revenues and the debt ceiling should not be a part of it. host: ok, thank you for calling. here is the editorial cartoonist of the post. the idea of minting a single coin valued at $1 trillion. using that to increase the debt limit. a number of stories saying that basically, this is not going to happen. his is what is reclined -- this -- what ezra kline writes he points out that they will not mince a trillion dollar coin. if...
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in the meantime, we deterred from the president addressing the debt ceiling, here is more on the issue from this morning's "washington journal." host: did this through the new report, we're joined by the economic policy project senior director, steve bell. director, explain this term that you use. what is the x date? guest: we called the drop dead date. that is the day all these extraordinary measures expires. that means the treasury will not have enough money to pay the next bill that comes then in full and on time. host: you try to figure when that date will hit. this is a chart from the debate, when the x date could hit. why is it a range? guest: we do not know what will happen to tax refunds. there could be some delays in getting tax refunds out. people who file their tax returns and expect to get a refund. if those refunds are delayed, will be near the end of that. host: take us back to explain how we're juggling these numbers around. we hit the debt limit on december 31st. how was treasury paying the bills? guest: they are using money called extraordinary measures. they borrow mo
in the meantime, we deterred from the president addressing the debt ceiling, here is more on the issue from this morning's "washington journal." host: did this through the new report, we're joined by the economic policy project senior director, steve bell. director, explain this term that you use. what is the x date? guest: we called the drop dead date. that is the day all these extraordinary measures expires. that means the treasury will not have enough money to pay the next bill...
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that's why i think you saw them retreat from the plan to push this debt ceiling issue immediately upon returning to work. so i think that there's a prospect for getting some things done. certainly on issues like immigration reform. there's a powerful impetus for there to be progress. i think we can make some. >> david, thank you very much. you're going to be leaving the president's side and starting an institute of politics at the university of chicago and we wish you all the luck in the world. >> you guys, i need you out there. >> nancy cordis is there as a number of the dignitaries begin to take their seats. what are you seeing? >> scott, there are 1,600 seats that have been set up on the west front terrace of the capitol. people who will be surrounding the president as he takes the oath of office. we are still awaiting the announcement of the dignitaries who will come out in groups. first, the nation's diplomatic core, the governor, then the cabinet, the joint chief of staff, and supreme court. and two former presidents, bill clinton and president carter who will both be in attendan
that's why i think you saw them retreat from the plan to push this debt ceiling issue immediately upon returning to work. so i think that there's a prospect for getting some things done. certainly on issues like immigration reform. there's a powerful impetus for there to be progress. i think we can make some. >> david, thank you very much. you're going to be leaving the president's side and starting an institute of politics at the university of chicago and we wish you all the luck in the...